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29 Mar 2011 15:12:52 tony dolce posted:
Hi all,
I'm currently using ADDT with DW CS4.
I'm currently using FCKeditor 2.6 as a WYSIWYG editor in the dynamic forms.
Does your HTML Editor 3 work with ADDT forms?
TIA
tony

Official Response

Replied 05 Apr 2012 14:10:54
Hello All,

The latest version of Advanced HTML Editor 3 has the following option integrated:
  • Added support for dynamic editor name attribute for support with ADDT

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Replied 29 Mar 2011 17:55:03
29 Mar 2011 17:55:03 Teodor Kuduschiev replied:
Hello Tony,

The editor replaces the form text area. It works fine with standard DW Insert / Update Record behaviors.
There shouldn't be a problem to work with ADDT as well. But as ADDT is a discontinued product, we do not officially support it.
Replied 30 Mar 2011 11:12:40
30 Mar 2011 11:12:40 tony dolce replied:
Hi,
just a suggestion: if you create an HTML editor that is ADDT compatible you'll ear lots of money from ADDT users. Just look at the adobe ADDT forum. You'll find that lots of users are searching for a KTML replacement.

ciao

tony
Replied 31 Mar 2011 10:07:10
31 Mar 2011 10:07:10 Miroslav Zografski replied:
Just a note to Tony:

what do you expect from an ADDT compatible editor?

Regards,
Replied 05 Apr 2011 17:21:55
05 Apr 2011 17:21:55 Jacques H replied:
I work with ADDT too. HTML editor 2 works just fine with ADDT. I am currently having some issues implementing HTML Editor 3 as it will not format the toolbars as expected. It puts them in on line instead of making nice rows.
Still working on that
Replied 06 Apr 2011 17:52:17
06 Apr 2011 17:52:17 Miroslav Zografski replied:
Hello Jack,

it is because the addt generated table for Forms applies no-wrap to each table cell.

Regards,
Replied 22 Apr 2011 02:19:14
22 Apr 2011 02:19:14 AK Tom replied:
That was helpful about the nowrap. I was wondering about that.
I am noticing though, that it doesnt deal well with dynamicly generated text filed IDs, like ADDT uses in its forms.
for example, a textfield might have an ID of
textfield_<?php echo $cnt1; ?>
and this editor will not allow that.

I can hand edit the textfields ID and the jquery call with the correct ID after running the wizard, however, I cannot re-enter the wizard to make any changes at that point.

would it be possible to add the ability for dynamically generated field names?

Thanks!
Tom
Replied 25 Apr 2011 18:52:49
25 Apr 2011 18:52:49 George Petrov replied:
Hi Tom,

Why would you ever need automatically generated textarea field names? Usually you need to specify exactly the name that you will be storing in the database as field - so it must be unique, for your database but also for your web page ... and having those auto generated can never insure that ...

Greetings,
George
Replied 25 Apr 2011 20:55:00
25 Apr 2011 20:55:00 AK Tom replied:
ADDT generates multiple insert forms in its list generator.
In other words, you can insert multiple records from one form.

In generating these forms, each set of form fields had a
_<?php echo $cnt1; ?>
appended to the end of each field name and ID.

The framework then loops through these fields, and inserts multiple records into the database (or multiple updates).

That is a very important reason to have this work with dynamically generated text field IDs.

The programming works fine, if I manually enter the
_<?php echo $cnt1; ?>
where needed on the page after the code is generated, however the wizard will not allow it, since there are spaces.

Does that make more sense?

This ability to generate lists, and multiple insert/edit/delete forms was one of the greatest strengths of ADDT. If you were ever to develop a similar extension, I am sure it would be very popular!

Thanks
Tom

Edited by - AK Tom on 25 Apr 2011  20:55:53
Replied 28 Apr 2011 08:00:15
28 Apr 2011 08:00:15 John Dulley replied:
I still use ADDT extensively, especially the Nextensio list and edit facilities - is saves hours of work. I used to use KTML but moved to FCKEditor and now CKEditor, adding the code via snippets.

I have unsuccessfully tried to use this editor to replace text areas - due to the spaces in the textarea name/ID.

Has anyone successfully replaced an ADDT text area with this editor and how did you do it?
Replied 28 Apr 2011 10:44:55
28 Apr 2011 10:44:55 George Petrov replied:
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I have unsuccessfully tried to use this editor to replace text areas - due to the spaces in the textarea name/ID.


Spaces in textarea name/ID? You mean in the Adv HTML Editor 3 textarea? Why would you need spaces in there - this is wrong...

Greetings,
George
Replied 28 Apr 2011 11:11:30
28 Apr 2011 11:11:30 AK Tom replied:
George,
For the exact same reason I detailed in my previous post. For dynamically generated field names.
Tom
Replied 28 Apr 2011 11:39:52
28 Apr 2011 11:39:52 George Petrov replied:
Aha well - dynamically field names are not supported now.

I still have trouble understanding why would you like to have multiple records editing with multiple html editor areas on a single page ... usually html editor areas are quote large content areas so you don't do multiple records editing on a single page ...

An example might help.

Greetings,
george
Replied 28 Apr 2011 19:31:06
28 Apr 2011 19:31:06 AK Tom replied:
George,
The ADDT lists/forms generate the code like this to allow multiple inserts/updates, even if you only do one on a page.

As for examples, I have many, but they are all in password protected admins, so I cant show them.
However, some examples are the product database of a shopping cart, where the product description is in an html editor. Sometimes having the ability to edit more than one product at a time is useful, if you just need to change a price, or mark an item on sale, or add a single line of text to multiple products in one go, or add 3 new products at once on the same screen.

The same goes for a rental management company, whose property description is in the html editor to give them the ability to bold, italics text, or add links to their description.
I have done this on many many websites. I currently use ckeditor and the webassist html editor extension, because it works fine with dynamically generated IDs.
However, I would like to use your editor, but can't until it supports that.

I suspect that all you have to do is change the validation on your wizard to allow spaces in the IDs, and then change the code that recognizes the server behavior on the page to look for IDs that have spaces in them, because if I manually change the code on the page and paste in the dynamically generated ID
textfield_<?php echo $cnt1; ?>
in place of just
texfield
in the code, the page works as expected.

However after doing that, its impossible to re-enter the wizard, because the behavior is no longer recognized.

Thanks!
Tom
Replied 29 Apr 2011 06:45:06
29 Apr 2011 06:45:06 John Dulley replied:
To George (and Tom),

To help George and others to get a better understanding of ADDT dynamic forms and replacing text areas with spaces in the name/id with an HTML Editor I have set up a small example using a test database at - test.sunsite.com.au/addt/ - which shows a standard textarea edit and the text area replaced with CK Editor.

To demonstrate the multiple update facility just select more than one record and click the edit button at the top of the page.

The text area replacement code for CK Editor is very simple as it accepts text area names/id with spaces:
<textarea name="newsContent_<%= cnt1 %>" id="newsContent_<%= cnt1 %>" cols="90" rows="7"><%=(KT_escapeAttribute(rsTable_WineNews.Fields.Item("newsContent").Value))%></textarea>                      <%=(tNGs.displayFieldHint("newsContent"))%> <%=(tNGs.displayFieldError("Table_WineNews", "newsContent"))%> 
<script type="text/javascript">
CKEDITOR.replace( 'newsContent_<%= cnt1 %>',
    {
        toolbar :
        [
            ['Bold','Italic','NumberedList','BulletedList','-','PasteText','PasteFromWord','-','Link','Unlink', 'Source' ]
        ]
    });
</script>


ADDT dynamic forms are still the easiest way for large numbers of small developers to easily create insert/update/delete pages in minutes and take advantage of their multiple editing facilities. The value of your editor would be far greater if it accepted spaces in the name/id so that it could be easily inserted an ADDT edit page as a text area replacement.
Replied 14 May 2011 23:42:07
14 May 2011 23:42:07 John Dulley replied:
Hello,

Have you forgotten this thread or are you working on a way to make the editor ADDT friendly?

There are lots of us out there still looking for an easy solution to using an editor with ADDT.
Replied 19 May 2011 11:23:48
19 May 2011 11:23:48 Teodor Kuduschiev replied:
Hello,

The thread is not forgotten, our developers are currently investigating the possibilities to integrate the Advanced HTML Editor 3 with ADDT.
Replied 20 May 2011 00:14:17
20 May 2011 00:14:17 John Dulley replied:
Hello Teodor,

Thanks - that is great news. Please keep us informed via this thread.
Replied 11 Aug 2011 08:34:15
11 Aug 2011 08:34:15 John Dulley replied:
Any progress in ADDT compatibility? Last time I posted was in May
Replied 01 Feb 2012 16:59:53
01 Feb 2012 16:59:53 tony dolce replied:
Hi all,
every time I see a newsletter referencing your advanced HTML editor I hope to read 'ADDT compatible with ADDT' but nothing to do.
It's version 3.3.0 now but still no support for ADDT.
As noted above, the editor should work fine for single text area replacement. But ADDT offers more: with ADDT you can edit multiple database records in one shot, displayng all records a' la excel. I currently use FCeditor 2.6 and modified the code as explained in the interaktonline.info forum. It works 99% but it require a little knowledge of php/html.
Perhaps adding ADDT compatibility to the HTML Editor would leverage this to all kind of users.
Tony
Replied 02 Feb 2012 08:14:03
02 Feb 2012 08:14:03 Teodor Kuduschiev replied:
Hello,

Unfortunately in the latest versions of DW - CS5 and CS5.5 there is no ADDT support. As i wrote in my previous posts - the developers were investing the options to integrate the product with ADDT. As this product is disconued and even no more supported offcially by Adobe since CS3, i am afraid that this is not one of our biggest prioriities at the moment.
Replied 03 Feb 2012 06:38:53
03 Feb 2012 06:38:53 John Dulley replied:
Teador,

ADDT works with fckEditor and ckEditor and now works with Innova Studio Live Editor. What's up with you guys - as I see it all you needed to do was to fix things so the editor worked with a space in the text area name/id.

I have not used your editor because of this and it was a complete waste of money.

ADDT is still the best back office system and there is nothing around that is nearly as good. Adobe were out of their minds when they discontinued it because they weren't prepared to fix it for CS4 onwards. I still use CS3 so I can use ADDT - Adobe has missed out on at least 2 upgrades from me.
Replied 26 Feb 2012 03:07:30
26 Feb 2012 03:07:30 John Carter replied:
@John Dully
ADDT works with Webassist's html editor as well. I'm in the same boat, bought Editor 3 and haven't been able to use it for the same problem. I'm hoping DMXZone will fix this.

Teador, just a note ADDT works with my DW4 version as well.
Regards
Replied 26 Feb 2012 03:08:09
26 Feb 2012 03:08:09 John Carter replied:
@John Dully
ADDT works with Webassist's html editor as well. I'm in the same boat, bought Editor 3 and haven't been able to use it for the same problem. I'm hoping DMXZone will fix this.

Teador, just a note ADDT works with my DW4 version as well.
Regards
Replied 26 Feb 2012 06:21:56
26 Feb 2012 06:21:56 John Dulley replied:
John Carter - thanks for the advice that ADDT works with DW4. At the moment I am happy with DW3 for the work I do - it is expensive to upgrade when the changes between versions are not that important.

I recall that Web Assist's editor is based on FckEditor which works fine with ADDT. I don't use Web Assist, but paste the Fck code into the page from a ready made snippet.

Teador - I still think that your editor is a complete waste of money and there are lots of other editors out there that are better. I first raised this 9 months ago and nothing has happened. That says a lot for the quality of DMX Zone support service.
Replied 26 Feb 2012 13:31:27
26 Feb 2012 13:31:27 Teodor Kuduschiev replied:
Hello John,

As i already stated in a post 4 weeks ago - Unfortunately supporting a dead, discontinued product, with no future is not our biggest priority at this moment.
I am sorry to hear you think that our HTML Editor 3 is a waste of money, but i don't think it is right to judge our support service quality this way, because of a product that won't be supported anymore by Adobe.

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