Hi,

am i the only one who is driven crazy by the annoying bugs in DMX? I read nothing but enthousiastic stories on DMX on the net.

On my Win2000 machine and on a collegues machine (Win98) DMX is not reliable at all.

First important thing: It crashes frequently without appearant reason.
Second: It adds page delimiters without need. In ASP-pages this happens all the time, but the problem is limited. In ASP.NET pages it sometimes adds 5 or 6 of them.

Databindings are not reliable in ASP. Bindings seem to come and go.

Server behaviours on pages are sometimes completely lost.

Besides that there are a sevaral minor bugs.

In my view this makes DMX a very unpredictable and unreliable tool for webdevelopment. Personally i rather keep working in Ultradev.

I am very sorry, but in this way Dreamweaver disqualifies as a suitable tool for webprofessionals. We are too busy to spend our time sorting out DMX-bugs all the time.



The client is allways right even if he is not.

Since I only use DMX for ASP JavaScript / VBScript I haven't really had too many problems with bugs, (I use Win98) and so far I'm very happy with it.
Although there are some annoyances such as the already mentioned, losing of databinds for no apparent reason, and one very annoying one which no one has mentioned here which is when you manually edit a DMX recordset variable, a little red exclamation point appears on the recordset panel, and if you click on that specific recordset, everything goes to hell. I've had to change some of my files to read-only to avoid this problem.
Overall I've made several sites using DMX and I'm happy with my purchase. Although there are several improvements I would implement, but that is a whole other topic.

"If it weren't for the last minute, nothing would get done."

Hi,

glad to hear it's doing ok in your case. We all have problems with it. But it is true that the Dreamweaver-part of Dreamweaver is as great as it has allways been. It is the Server-side coding in ASP and ASP.NET that is given us the creeps. But if i read your post, your DMX isn't stable too.
The client is allways right even if he is not.

Edited by - tjerk on 30 Jan 2003 15:06:46

I use DW MX on W2K and mainly develop ASP/VBScript sites. I haven't found any problems.

It has crashed a couple of times, but no more frequently than UD4 used to. The program is still a bit of a CPU and memoty hog for some operations. One area I have had problems with is when using library items, on large sites and dynamic sites in particular, it can take a long time to update all the pages and sometimes MX will crash. So, I've stopped using them on large dynamic sites and set up a series of #Include files instead of library items.

Regards

Owen.

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Hmmm, strange that we are the only ones that have these problems.
Ultradev is ultra stable here. Very reliable like all other apps.
On my Win 2000 machine DMX is the only app. that keeps rebelling.
Maybe i should re-re-reinstall?
It is not a matter of RAM with 512 Mb (I presume).

But i would not be surprised if the databinding problem that many people report is actually due to the use of a third party extension.

The client is allways right even if he is not.

Hmmm, strange that we are the only ones that have these problems.
Ultradev is ultra stable here. Very reliable like all other apps.
On my Win 2000 machine DMX is the only app. that keeps rebelling.
Maybe i should re-re-reinstall?
It is not a matter of RAM with 512 Mb (I presume).

But i would not be surprised if the databinding problem that many people report is actually due to the use of a third party extension.

The client is allways right even if he is not.

512Mb of RAM is the same as I have, so that shouldn't be a problem, I've recently upgraded to a an Athlon XP2200+ based syetem, but DW MX was no less stable on my old Dual PIII 500, everything was just slower, that also had 512Mb RAM.

Could try a clean install, if you have all your personal files backed up, maybe try a clean install from the OS up. Apply all the Windows service packs and updates, then install DW MX and the update to 6.01. If your really keen, update to the latest Motherboard BIOS and make sure all your hardware drivers are bang up to date.

Regards

Owen.

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I don't think its a RAM or performance issue since I'm running a PIII 866 Mhz and I only have 256 RAM. It could be any little trivial problem such as user privileges, profiles, desktop color configuration, conflicts with some other HTML editor, etc... you never know. I've run into very bizarre situations in my career where one little thing is messing up a whole other unrelated program.

What is still a mistery to me is the disappering / reappearing databindings since I don't use any third party extensions, but to be honest its only happened to me twice in the almost whole year I've been using DMX and I've figured out little tricks to recover them manually. Of course I can't speak of stability when it comes to ASP.NET, JSP, PHP etc... since I haven't had to use them yet.

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Hmmm, strange that we are the only ones that have these problems.
Ultradev is ultra stable here. Very reliable like all other apps.
On my Win 2000 machine DMX is the only app. that keeps rebelling.
Maybe i should re-re-reinstall?
It is not a matter of RAM with 512 Mb (I presume).

But i would not be surprised if the databinding problem that many people report is actually due to the use of a third party extension.

The client is allways right even if he is not.
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"If it weren't for the last minute, nothing would get done."

since the updater DWMX isn't as unstable as it was for me, I have more headaches with the CFMX server that i run with the built in webserver for development purposes.

Offcourse pressing F12 and seeing ERRORS with translator codes in your CFML code is nasty, but this only happens with coldfusion i hear, just my luck <img src=../images/dmxzone/forum/icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>

Oh, I have 256MB at home on a Athlon 1GHz and 128MB at work on a P2 300...
For me the long times are direct result of corporate virusscanners and the "open" DWMX environment, if I just click on ANY button the virusscanner somewhere out there delays the response, so that becomes annoying if you edit alot of pages.

with regards,

Dennis van Galen
DMXzone Manager

Extension, Tutorial and FAQ's Manager

Studio MX / CFMX PRO / SQL 2000 / NT4 AND win2kPRO / IIS5

Here's a bug I discovered today.

Tags disappear from the tag library.
You can insert them from insert panel, select them from the tag-chooser but they are NOT in the tag-library and as a result you cannot use the nice visual tag-editor.

This is no DWMX bug, it is a problem associated with windows NT4 and roaming profiles.

with regards,

Dennis van Galen
Webmaster KPN Telecom Holland
Financial & Information Services

Studio MX / CFMX PRO / SQL 2000 / NT4 AND win2kPRO / IIS5

Edited by - djvgalen on 04 Mar 2003 17:12:43

Hi

I've come accross a problem in DWMX. I attach a binding to my page and it's diaplyed as {recordset.fieldname}. Now, if I close DWMX and oopen the file by double clickling from Windows Explorer my binding is shown as the ASP code tag and my bindings panel won't allow me to edit the items on my page. If however I open DWMX first via the Start menu my bindings display correctly. This only happens when i have my server language set up as 'ASP VBScript'. Has anyone else had this problem?

Paul

I too have had problems ever since I insalled the 6.01 Contribute update. MX became unstable - not sure if the 50+ extensions were to blame. I have erased MX and uninstalled all extensions and started over but still coming up with "Instruction... referenced memory cant be written... errors". I kept getting errors when changing cascading style sheets and saving them but I think that has been resolved with the new install. I am hesitant to install all of the extensions again - not knowing which one of them might have been the culpret to choke the Extension manager...

Hi

I too have the Contribute DMX updater installed, but I installed it before i installed any of the extentions I have. Read this on www.macromedia.com

Sometimes problems with DMX. With no reason it removes recordsets om my ASP pages when I change a css style or something else. Strange!!!!

I hope there will be soon an update for MX with better support for DOTNET. I have tryed Visual Studio.net and that's a lot better and quicker to make .net webapplications and databindings.

I have had a similar problem in MX. When I make new pages and use drag and drop to add fields to my page some show up as{recordset.fieldname} whilst others show up as ASP code tag. The asp code tag items do not register as dynamic text in the recordset window and consequently nothing works properly on the page, although I can preview in IIS ok. I have no idea why this happens but when I import pages from UD4 they view and work fine. I would be interested to hear if anyone has a fix for this<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
Hi

I've come accross a problem in DWMX. I attach a binding to my page and it's diaplyed as {recordset.fieldname}. Now, if I close DWMX and oopen the file by double clickling from Windows Explorer my binding is shown as the ASP code tag and my bindings panel won't allow me to edit the items on my page. If however I open DWMX first via the Start menu my bindings display correctly. This only happens when i have my server language set up as 'ASP VBScript'. Has anyone else had this problem?

Paul
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Nope, I've had this problem with a totally fresh install, i try to stay away from extensions at the best of times.

Server Model is a big problem for me with dwmx, no matter what i do i cannot get it to to accept that ive set up IIS for a asp/vbscript site. I was very dissappointed with it to be honest, and am just glad the company paid for it and not me.

Ultradev came straight back out of the closet <img src=../images/dmxzone/forum/icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

Regards,
Dave

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