Hi All,

Well, I just learned that 1and1 is no longer supporting ANY image processing components in their shared server packages.

Anyone know of a reasonably affordable hosting solution for multiple websites? Something akin to 1and1, but with known image processing components available on their servers?

Thanks

Bill

Hi Bill,

If they run ASP.NET - you don't need any server components! SIP 2 runs directly with ASP.NET!
So nothing to worry about

Greetings,
George

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George Petrov - Founder of the Dynamic Zones
DMXzone.com, FWzone.net, FLzone.net, CFzone.net,
DNzone.com, FlashFiles.nl
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Hi George,

They don't have ASP.NET available, and removed all other server components from their shared server environments. I'm seeing this as a trend as I investigate hosting packages. Webhosts want customers that use their built-in SiteBuilder components, and in 1and1's case, it does not appear any image resizing is possible. They allow upload and can validate size (I can do that much too, of course), but if a customer wants a way to automate the resizing of large images, thumbnailing, watermarking, etc, they need to find a client-side solution or pay for dedicated server space to call the shots on which components are installed. Again, at least this is the case with 1and1, which formally was the most competitive service I had come across. Unfortunately, the rules have changed on me after I've moved/grown about 30 sites on their server.

Any thought George on a way to build an extension like SIP2 that is client-side only?

Thanks

Bill

Hi Bill,

out of curiosity I looked at the packages that 1and1 offer and it seems they do offer ASP.NET but in the more professional packacges (like MS Business) which seem to me also very affortable.

The trend is actually that all providers that offer ASP now also offer ASP.NET as the next step - so there is really no going back. Probably some providers like 1and1 cut it off to let you pay a bit more...

SIP functionality unfortunately can not yet be done client side. But who knows eventually with this quickly evolving Flash Player - you might see an image editor in Flash soon <img src=../images/dmxzone/forum/icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle> - but still some server functionality is still needed.

Greetings,
George

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George Petrov - Founder of the Dynamic Zones
DMXzone.com, FWzone.net, FLzone.net, CFzone.net,
DNzone.com, FlashFiles.nl
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I have new information on this George - I checked and my package does, in fact, support asp.net, but I'm still getting the error:

Image Processor: Component AspNet could not be loaded
Please make sure that the component AspNet is installed.


I checked again with 1and1 and there is something I need to change in my root directory to get asp.net services, so I believe we can close this thread. If I have any additional issues, I'll do a new post - thanks for the help.

Bill

Edited by - billium99 on 11 Dec 2006 05:57:20

Bill - you can definately get this to work on 1and1 (at leeast in the Business and Pro pakcages with ASP.NET) I run loads of sites on these packages and they all work fine.

I had issues getting the Original Picture Processor to work too until I realised that because of the way 1and1 set up their ASP.NET it won't read the path to the aspx resize file relative to the file that is trying to read it.

As an example, let's presume you run multiple sites on your package and you store them in individual folders. One site's root folder is "mybigsite". In that folder will be your ScriptLibrary folder containing all the SIP files. The line in your code that links up the resize component will be written as "../ScriptLibrary" (i.e. realtive to your file) but it won't find it until you either change it to "../mybigsite/ScriptLibrary" or copy the Scriptlibrary folder into the root of your entire webspace (i.e. above /mybigsite)

Try copying the BIN folder from one of your websites into your webspace root and try it then (won't hurt to copy the ScriptLibrary folder there too I suppose!)

Any use?

Thanks Chris,

This is hopeful then! So far I tried changing the path to the script library include files, but it immediately didn't find them and gave me an error saying the path to those files was invalid. If I place the bin folder and script library folder in the root (I have two copies now) this does not work still. I've tried several combinations with the same results.

One clue might be that my domain shows up in my browser now with website.com/website/actualfile.asp, but I can get an aspx page to display which I take to mean aspnet is working in this location.

Any ideas? Thanks

Bill

more info - ?sipinfo=true gives me...

Server Information
Info Value
Server Name shepherdsdreamproject.com
Server IP Address 82.165.207.124
Server Port 80
Server Software Microsoft-IIS/6.0
Operating System
Script Engine VBScript (version: 5.6.8827)

Response Object
Attribute Value
Response.Buffer True
Response.CacheControl private
Response.Charset
Response.ContentType text/html
Response.Expires
Response.ExpiresAbsolute 12:00:00 AM
Response.isClientConnected True
Response.Status 200 OK

Server Object
Attribute Value
Server.ScriptTimeout 90

Session Object
Attribute Value
Session.CodePage 1252
Session.LCID 1033
Session.SessionID 707664923
Session.TimeOut 20

Installed Components
Component Version Resize Crop RotateLeft RotateRight Sharpen Blur GrayScale AddText AddWatermark AddTiledWatermark AddStretchedWatermark FlipHorizontal FlipVertical

Image Processor: No component detected
There is no supported component detected.

Hi Bill,

Seems the ASP.NET still can not be found. Make sure the bin and ScriptLibrary folders are in the root of your site.

Usually you should define each of your sites as separate site in DW so no matter how they are defined at your provider - each DW root is actually the real site root. This way you won't have troubles with the paths.

Greetings,
George

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George Petrov - Founder of the Dynamic Zones
DMXzone.com, FWzone.net, FLzone.net, CFzone.net,
DNzone.com, FlashFiles.nl
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Hi George,

What Chris was describing about 1and1 I think is correct. Any sites you want to use ASP.NET functionality with, you must have the domain point to the root of the server, to a redirect script that points back to the site folder.

Using this method, I have confirmed I can get an ASPX page to display, but I still can't get SIP2 to recognize that ASP.NET is available. I have the bin and scriptlibrary folders inside the site folder, but also placed at the server root, at the same location as the redirect file, so I would think no matter where SIP2 is calling, I have the correct stuff in both places, but still no detection.

Any more suggestions?

Thanks

Bill