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DWMX for Linux?

Posted 29 Jan 2003 16:27:20
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29 Jan 2003 16:27:20 Ben D posted:
Does anyone know if MM will release DW for linux? That's really one of the few things that keeps me from switching completely to Linux. That and Photoshop or an image program as powerful as ps.

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Replied 29 Jan 2003 17:47:18
29 Jan 2003 17:47:18 Julio Taylor replied:
that's really weird. i was about to type the same question but i saw your topic just now before i pressed "new topic".....

i wish they would do a system for linux, i totally agree it would be a great thing to finally stop using Windows. I mean, XP is great for games and stuff like that but for adult applications it's just far too wimpy and unstable to use.

i'm sure the day will finally come when MM decide that there is a market amongst developers in the Linux world. I think what's held back so far is both the facts that there hasn't been (until recently) a stable common LINUX platform (there's been far too many wild variations of it in the past, what with RedHat and M adrake and Suse etc) on which to release DW, and also it would involve delving into the OSRC world, which would cause a humongous conflict of interest with its Win32 operations in terms of licensing and also revealing code and so forth. There is simply a consensus in the software market (in my opinon at least) that it is just too difficult to make substantial profit in a market which is driven 90% by opensource development work and that is largely ignored by the corporate machine. I think this is also the reason why other application developers have also stayed away from linux in the past.

But Linux is now becoming pro-actively accepted by people like HP, Dell and IBM, which gives it a serious amount of momentum and credibility in terms of the market at least. Also there are standards being developed which means that more and more releases are much more similar and compatible in architechture to each other than before.

As far as MM is concerened there is no point in investing in a market which is not traditionally geared toward a corporate (i.e. money-generating) sector of the developer market. There may be a lot of coders and programmers working only in linux, but you'll find that at least 80% of those are not involved in web development at corporate level, which means there is little incentive (i think) to accomodate for them.

that and the fact that most linux geeks think that they are far too "cool" to use sissy bed-wetter WYSIWYG tools like DWMX! <img src=../images/dmxzone/forum/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

this is a cool thread, let's keep it rolling. considering many of the app servers we use are based on linux, it makes sense that there is a little more attention paid to it by the people who empower idiots like me to make "websites" so easily.

yay!

note to self: fingers hurting. stop typing.



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Replied 29 Jan 2003 18:43:23
29 Jan 2003 18:43:23 Ben D replied:
that would definitely be cool if one were released. I used to be one of those die hard note pad users that would write all my own code, then one of my co-workers told me I should check out DW, when 4.0 was still new and ever since then I have always used it for design. I still do alot of coding by hand but for layouts and such DW is the best.
MM has released Coldfusion for Linux since version 4.5 I think, I don't see why there would be an issue with releasing a DW version. I just wonder if they can make it as great in Linux as it is in Windows.

I have tried several other editors in Linux and none can even come close to what DW does.
Replied 29 Jan 2003 18:43:24
29 Jan 2003 18:43:24 Ben D replied:
that would definitely be cool if one were released. I used to be one of those die hard note pad users that would write all my own code, then one of my co-workers told me I should check out DW, when 4.0 was still new and ever since then I have always used it for design. I still do alot of coding by hand but for layouts and such DW is the best.
MM has released Coldfusion for Linux since version 4.5 I think, I don't see why there would be an issue with releasing a DW version. I just wonder if they can make it as great in Linux as it is in Windows.

I have tried several other editors in Linux and none can even come close to what DW does.
Replied 29 Jan 2003 21:10:46
29 Jan 2003 21:10:46 Julio Taylor replied:
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MM has released Coldfusion for Linux since version 4.5 I think, I don't see why there would be an issue with releasing a DW version
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ColdFusion is an application engine, and not a development environment. The target audience for CF is much more specific and is obviously aimed at running corporate applications. As i said, IBM and Dell support Linux at corporate infrastructure levels. DW is still an end-user program and there is no evidence of significant success (yet) of commercial desktop applications making significant profit in Linux.

There are many other enterprise-based applications for Linux like CF, but in the end i still think that until the desktop-based application market swings away from the PC and Windows, companies like MM, Adobe (Photoshop) and others will not release significant applications for Linux which require investement. There isn't any evidence of a market that will return anything for their efforts just yet, although i am sure this will happen in the next 10 months.

Besides that, i totally agree with you. DW is the best there is in its class and a Linux version would be fantastic. I just also hope they can do a good job with it!


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Replied 30 Jan 2003 14:49:14
30 Jan 2003 14:49:14 Julio Taylor replied:
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Replied 21 Oct 2003 03:47:54
21 Oct 2003 03:47:54 John Pels*** replied:
Hey you guys must be very well versed with linux. I hope might be able to answer this question that has been troubling me. I am trying to cannot to the database but to no avail. I am able to do the dsn look-up with no problems but when it comes to creating a servior behavior, I cannot view the tables? I get an error 1034 cannot connect to database. My question is better said "If I can do a DSN lookup through DW and recieve the name of my database, then why can I not view the tables in the servior behavior window?".
Replied 21 Oct 2003 18:53:14
21 Oct 2003 18:53:14 Janusz Jasinski replied:
Hi,

I done some research into this whilst ding my MSc and you sort-of can do it.

It can work using Wine - but not very well. Its slow and flaky and crashes when you try to use some functions. The only way I got it to work was with Win4Lin, which installs windows 'inside' linux. It worked pretty well, but was somewhat slower - usable but not brilliant.

The folks at Macromedia seem awfully NON-interested in the linux community. I suspect they have some sort of financial arrangement with Microsoft and may even be trying to make dreamweaver NOT work with linux.

May I suggest www.execulink.com/~cboden/dwlin/ to maybe get the guys @ Macromedia 2 support it!

Janusz

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