I have been very frustrated with getting things put on a page where I want them. I know to do this with tables, but I can't get it to work.

If I post the code here could somone try and help me. I must be doing something wrong!
Everything looks placed right in Dreamweaver, and then when I preview it my graphic is way lower than I want it, and I can't get it to move at all!
mumsienc

I understand the frustration when things don't work as they are supposed to.

Paste the simple table code that represents the problem you see. I'm sure someone in the forum can help you - of course if I understand the problem I'll do the same<img src=../images/dmxzone/forum/icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

- Noz

Thanks, I will post in a sec. Would would be such a wonderful thing to get this figured out!
mumsienc

Here is the code.
I wanted the navigation text at top, then a little below it the text graphic.
Seems so simple, but I can't get it to work.
Any help?
And thanks.

&lt;!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"&gt;
&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;TITLE&gt;Untitled Document&lt;/TITLE&gt;
&lt;META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"&gt;
&lt;META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1276" name=GENERATOR&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;
&lt;BODY&gt;
&lt;TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=640 border=0&gt;
&lt;TBODY&gt;
&lt;TR align="left"&gt;
&lt;TD width="250" rowSpan=5 vAlign=top&gt;&lt;IMG height=460
src="darn thing_files/tape measure graphic.gif" width=220&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD colSpan=3 align="left" vAlign=top&gt;
&lt;TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left border=0&gt;
&lt;TBODY&gt;
&lt;TR vAlign=top align=left&gt;
&lt;TD width=98&gt;HomePage&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD width=146&gt;RoadRat Archive&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD width=174&gt;Future RoadRat Tours&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD width=2&gt;&nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR vAlign=top align=left&gt;
&lt;TD colSpan=4&gt;&lt;img src="../../../../SITES/tudanefarm/images/gif%20copy%203.gif" width="420" height="10"&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD colSpan=3 align="left" vAlign=top&gt;&lt;IMG height=1
src="darn thing_files/gif spacer.gif" width=1&gt;&lt;img src="../../../../SITES/tudanefarm/images/textratright.gif" width="408" height="40"&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD colSpan=3 align="left" valign="top"&gt;&lt;IMG height=1 src="darn thing_files/gif spacer.gif"
width=1&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD colspan="3" align=left vAlign=top&gt;&lt;img src="../../../../SITES/tudanefarm/images/gifcopy4.gif" width="420" height="10"&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD colspan="3" align=left vAlign=top&gt;
&lt;TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0&gt;
&lt;TBODY&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;&nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;
&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD vAlign=top&gt;&nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD width="181" align=left vAlign=top&gt;&nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD width="210" colSpan=2 vAlign=top&gt;&nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;
&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;

I'm assuming that you are seeing gaps inbetween each images, and you wanted them to be stay upper side of the table - with images shown right down to each.

The problem is in the right clumn of the last table row - it does not have any data. Try setting the height of the table row to something like 350 to 380 and preview the document. I'm sure you'll see a difference. And that's how a table works.

- Noz

TADA! I'll be able to sleep now without clenching my jaw!
Thanks
So, what I didn't do was have something in the table below it to push it up?
I can either set a height, or let whatever I put inside that cell determine the height?
Does that sound right?

Try using CSS instead?

Janusz

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Try using CSS instead?

I haven't learned css yet, though I will! I suspect I'll have to.

It's a good replacment for tables.... I don't want to get into a discussion about it though as it could last for ages.

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I probably wouldn't understand it anyway, though I hope I can find something easier than tables. I don't care for them at all