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Posted 24 May 2005 22:58:53
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24 May 2005 22:58:53 Patrick O'Brien posted:
Hi, I wonder if anyone can help me please.

A daft one I know, but for the life of me I can't get it to work properly!!!

I'm using Dreamweaver. The heading between my title tags reads &lt;TITLE&gt;World
War 2 1939-1945 - www.1939to1945.com&lt;/TITLE&gt;

Now I am expecting the title to appear in the menu bar at the top of the
explorer screen when I view the site.

However, for some reason I still only manage to see '1939to1945.com' in the
menu bar in explorer.

Like I say, daft I know but it is bugging me that the words I want to appear
don't and the original still does.

I use cuteftp to up load my pages, and the page does work when viewed in
Dreamweaver.

Any and all help would be most appreciated.

Regards,

Patrick.

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Replied 25 May 2005 14:36:06
25 May 2005 14:36:06 Patrick O'Brien replied:
As an after thought - could this be a bug in Dreamweaver???

I've tried a simple page using word and frontpage and the title tage works fine. I don't a framset on my front page or templates, I have tried refresh before saving and I even changed the title from the page properties dialogue box itself rather than just changing the name in the title field of the main document window.

All help appreciated, like I say it's only a small issue but an annoyance none the less!!!

Regards,

Pat.
Replied 25 May 2005 15:53:00
25 May 2005 15:53:00 Lee Diggins replied:
Hi Patrick

I've put this in code view and it works fine for me:
&lt;TITLE&gt;World War 2 1939-1945 - www.1939to1945.com&lt;/TITLE&gt;

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Replied 25 May 2005 18:07:09
25 May 2005 18:07:09 Dave Thomas replied:
i also looked, and it showed

<pre id=code><font face=courier size=2 id=code>&lt;title&gt;www.1939to1945.com&lt;/title&gt;</font id=code></pre id=code>

in the source.

u sure you've updated the file on the webserver?

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Dave Thomas
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Replied 25 May 2005 18:18:00
25 May 2005 18:18:00 Patrick O'Brien replied:
Hiya both, see what I mean it's nuts!!!

You are both seeing different things. I've just logged into CuteFTP and re-uploaded the files!!! I gave it half hour or so just in case and I've just had another look - still no joy!!!

The bizarre thing is that if you right click the page and 'Add to Favourites' it does pick up the proper text in the &lt;title&gt; tags!!! Bizarre.

When you right click the page and 'View Source' it looks ok, but the title bar at the top still shows 1939to1945.com

Regards,

Pat.
Replied 25 May 2005 18:53:06
25 May 2005 18:53:06 Lee Diggins replied:
Hi Patrick

It's your frameset that's causing this:

&lt;!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Frameset//EN"&gt;
&lt;!-- saved from url=(0026)www.1939to1945.com/ --&gt;
&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;TITLE&gt;1939to1945.com&lt;/TITLE&gt;
&lt;META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"&gt;
&lt;META content="MSHTML 6.00.3790.1830" name=GENERATOR&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;FRAMESET
rows=*&gt;&lt;FRAME src="1939to1945_com_files/home.htm"&gt;&lt;/FRAMESET&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;

Home.htm has the right title tag info.

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Replied 25 May 2005 23:07:51
25 May 2005 23:07:51 Patrick O'Brien replied:
Hi Lee, you'll have to forgive me, I am a bit of a newbie!!!

Can you explain, sorry!

Regards,

Pat.
Replied 26 May 2005 10:59:41
26 May 2005 10:59:41 Lee Diggins replied:
Hi Patrick


It looks as if you or your host presents the page using a frameset, please see the title tag information contained at the end of this post, also looks as if the frameset title tag is set to use the domain name 1939to1945.com. The easiest way to see what's occuring here is to create a new non-frame basic htm page:

&lt;html&gt;
&lt;head&gt;
&lt;title&gt;Hello World - Test#1&lt;/title&gt;
&lt;/head&gt;
&lt;body&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hellow World - Test#1 Content&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/body&gt;
&lt;/html&gt;

Upload the file to your host and see what's in the title bar of your browser. If you get 'Hello World - Test#1' in the title bar then it's down to the you, if you get 1939to1945.com then it's your host that's presenting the page in a frameset - recommend changing hosts if that's the case.

&lt;!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Frameset//EN"&gt;&lt;title&gt;1939to1945.com&lt;/title&gt;&lt;frameset rows="*"&gt;&lt;frame src="www.pobrien.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/home.html" scrolling="auto"&gt;&lt;/frameset&gt;

Post a link to the file when you've done it so we can take another look.

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Replied 26 May 2005 20:41:37
26 May 2005 20:41:37 Patrick O'Brien replied:
Hi Lee,

Here is the page...

www.pobrien.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/basic.htm

So I get Hello in the title bar and Hellow in the actual page itself.

So It must be something I'm doing, but I don't know what???

Regards,

Pat.
Replied 27 May 2005 11:17:31
27 May 2005 11:17:31 Lee Diggins replied:
Hi Patrick

You're definately using frames.

Do a search in DW help for 'Designing a frameset', it will have instructions on how to delete/remove a frameset. Backup the site first just in case.



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Replied 27 May 2005 15:56:38
27 May 2005 15:56:38 Patrick O'Brien replied:
Hi Lee, sorry chap but I'm still at a loss. How is it that you determined I am using framesets.
As far as I am aware I jave only used tables in dreamweaver. They are 2 different things aren't they??

How did you come by this code as I cannot see it in the code on my page!!!

&lt;!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Frameset//EN"&gt;&lt;title&gt;1939to1945.com&lt;/title&gt;&lt;frameset rows="*"&gt;&lt;frame src="www.pobrien.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/home.html" scrolling="auto"&gt;&lt;/frameset&gt;

Apologies for being such a pain - like I say a newbie to all this html malarky!!!

Regards,

Pat.

Replied 27 May 2005 16:09:17
27 May 2005 16:09:17 Patrick O'Brien replied:
Mind you, I have just spotted this on blueyonder's website.........

"All customers have up to 30MB of filespace on our servers to use with their new account. You can check your usage in our Selfcare site.

If you wish your website to be able to be viewed without users needing to put a filename on the end of the address, ie:

www.&lt;alias name&gt;.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk

instead of:

www.&lt;alias name&gt;.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/myfilename.html

You will need to call your initial (home) page one of the following:

index.html
index.htm
default.html
default.htm

When your webspace is setup, a default.htm file is created automatically. You may wish to overwrite this file with your own file, or just to remove it in order for your own pages to be viewable. You should be able to delete or overwrite this file using any FTP program, or if you call your home page index.html in FrontPage you can just overwrite it."

Will this make a difference as I have called my page home.html and not one of the ones above?
My domain name is registered with Lycos and I have set up the 'cloak' option to my pwp site name followed by '/home.html'.

Or am I talking rubbish?

Regards,

Pat.

Edited by - pobrien31 on 27 May 2005 16:11:46
Replied 27 May 2005 17:53:38
27 May 2005 17:53:38 Lee Diggins replied:
Hi Patrick

Sounds like you've just answered your own question!

Rename home.htm to default.htm and upload, should see the problem go away.

Erm!!!! Before you do that check with Lycos, you might find there shouldn't be a problem, that's most likely where the SRC for the frameset is coming from.

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Edited by - Digga the Wolf on 27 May 2005 17:55:56
Replied 27 May 2005 21:22:09
27 May 2005 21:22:09 Patrick O'Brien replied:
Hi Lee, got your e-mail and file sent.

I also posted a message in the blueyonder newsgroup of my isp, someone replied with this...

It's not BY that are framing it - it's whoever is forwarding your domain
www.1939to1945.com. They're doing framed forwarding, so you'll need to
change the title at their end, as that's the title you're going to see from
that url. If you go to www.pobrien.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/index.html
instead you'll see the title you've set.

I changed the home.html page to index.html page but no joy.

However if I do view www.pobrien.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/index.html it does work!!!

Do I need to e-mail lycos?

Regards,

Pat.


Edited by - pobrien31 on 27 May 2005 21:23:17
Replied 27 May 2005 21:31:58
27 May 2005 21:31:58 Patrick O'Brien replied:
Lee,

My pwp is now www.pwp.pobrien.blueyonder.co.uk/index.html

Sure enough the above address does show the correct wording in the title bar, but not if you select www.1939to1945.com

My domain is registered with Lycos.

I have noticed that 'webpointing' was set as 'Cloak your domain to an external site - - this shows the domain 1939to1945.com in the address field but not the correct wording in the title bar.

However, I have just changed it to 'Redirect your domain to an external site - - this now shows the correct wording in the title bar, however it is showing my blueyonder pwp address and the 1939to1945.com address!!!

Bizarre!!!

Regards,

Pat.
Replied 03 Jun 2005 10:42:21
03 Jun 2005 10:42:21 Lee Diggins replied:
Did you get this sorted out Patrick?

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